How does this work in epoxy adhesives or grouts? What kind of binder is there? I mean, I know that there are two components and when mixed they harden, but what is happening there, so to speak, at the molecular level? What goes into what and who knits whom :)))))))
Maybe I don't understand something. But isn’t tile or simply tile a separate type of ceramic tile? In my opinion, the format and composition of the clay is special... Does anyone have any information about this?
And I find fault with myself more when I evaluate how well I laid the tiles. Clients often don’t notice many of the flaws; for the majority, as long as the tiles on the walls stay in place and the seams are more or less even :))))))))) Therefore, I myself try to make sure that my conscience doesn’t bother me, and trim so that it’s more beautiful, and to draw the angles evenly, a lot depends on the perception of the master. I know a carpenter, he has a barn at his dacha - dear mother! There is not a single level board, the roof is leaking, etc., according to the principle “it will do,” but there are people who approach it with all their hearts. This is how I try to do things so that people aren’t ashamed to look them in the eye, and my clients appreciate it. There are, of course, characters who, in order to bring down the price, find fault with every tile, but you can immediately see such people... for me it’s better not to deal with them. You won’t earn all the money, but your nerves are always more valuable :))))))
Yes, of course you can do it yourself! I think that 90% of craftsmen are self-taught, and the fact that you have not worked with tiles before is not a problem, there is always a first time for everything. But my advice is to practice at home first, and then at the facility :)))))))))))))))
So, gentlemen! The experiment was a success!!! On the balcony I laid tiles in the 15X15 format, loosened the glue in the proportion - half a bag of "Extras" to a bag of CM11. Everything mixed well, stuck and hung. I glued it under a 1 cm comb, it didn’t leak or float. The wall was not big enough for my eyes. I’m unlikely to practice something like this in the future, “you never know.” I don’t want to let the customer down, but it’s quite an option for myself!
Yep, it's been a while since I came here! Well, you piled up calculations and formulas... The person was confused. I appeal to every CUSTOMER or CONSUMER - Stop getting on your nerves. Are you asking how much you will take? As a master, I’ll tell you, with such a customer - NOT FOR MUCH!!! If he is thinking about saving on tile adhesive, preferring a cement and sand solution - this is already a diagnosis! It would be better if, instead of tiles, I collected the battle near the store - everything will be more economical!!! I laid it on cement with sand, when I was still a kid, my dad and I were tiling the stove at the dacha, and we fucked for a week! And every year then they restored it. Until one day I completely remade it (with tile adhesive, by the way). What is the savings in ruining the stove, walls, floor...your mood in the end? Buy yourself the cheapest instrument for balance! So that the tile cutter breaks on the first tile :))))))))) There are different adhesives, there are very inexpensive ones. Okay, I'm confused about something. Remember gentlemen: THE STINGY PAYS TWICE
It is much more convenient to work with leveling solutions in bags
I'll express my opinion. If we are talking about such objects as apartments (especially small-sized ones), then here an ordinary internship “rests”. The customer will not even consider the difference in cost when he imagines what he will need to supply to the site: cement, sand, mixing container. That every brigade has a concrete mixer? But every team has a mixer!!! And to pour a cement screed, you need at least two people, and even more if loading and unloading work is involved. You will have to mix in portions, in some places there is too much water, in others there is more cement... And with ready-made levelers it’s a nice thing! The customer bought it, delivered it, and picked it up. One master is quite capable of diluting it, mixing it with a mixer, pouring it and leveling it.
Larger objects are a different matter, of course there is a screed there. But there are more people and different tools.
I agree, all these points have their place. Well, except that we always take water from the tap, it’s never happened from a puddle :))))))) But the fact that we usually collect the dried pieces of glue on the sides and on the bottom and put them to use is 100%. I'll keep that in mind now, thank you!!! Continuing the topic, one more question. The last time I had a chance to work with Keracol, the glue is called “Extra” (I really didn’t see the original packaging, I took a discounted one with a torn bag in film), it’s a pleasure to work with and the glue mixes well and the tools are easy to wash. During the process of laying the tiles, I mixed it several times (so as not to dry out), and with this glue the mixture turned out to be very homogeneous without lumps, crusts and other garbage. I was laying an apron in the kitchen, half a bag was left, now I’m planning to tile the wall on the balcony, half a bag is not enough, but I have the remains of CM 11 from the site. It’s very convenient to work with the extra, the tiles don’t float or slide, and the SM is the SM... So I’m thinking of doing an experiment, what if the extra is released with the SM? Will thixotropy remain? What do you think?
Yes, this is all clear. Instructions, recipe, etc. I am interested in SPECIFIC EXAMPLES of what a violation of the recipe leads to. Here is an example from personal experience: the glue was not mixed well (the volume was small, it was necessary to cover the window slopes with brick-like tiles). I was too lazy to go for the “mixer”, I mixed it with a spatula. I poured the glue into a container and filled it with water, started stirring, the mixture turned out to be heterogeneous with lumps, the lumps inside were dry. Perhaps if you stir it well, the situation would improve. But I didn’t have enough patience :) I threw everything away and glued it onto silicone (luckily the customer had one). But my sin is not on the “water into glue” or “glue into water” sequence, but on the fact that you need to use a special mixer for mixing tile adhesive, or a special attachment for a drill, if the volume is small (after that incident I always have it with myself :))))))
All my life I thought that Portland cement was named after the city of Portland :)))))) Thanks for the historical information!
How does this work in epoxy adhesives or grouts? What kind of binder is there? I mean, I know that there are two components and when mixed they harden, but what is happening there, so to speak, at the molecular level? What goes into what and who knits whom :)))))))
Maybe I don't understand something. But isn’t tile or simply tile a separate type of ceramic tile? In my opinion, the format and composition of the clay is special... Does anyone have any information about this?
And I find fault with myself more when I evaluate how well I laid the tiles. Clients often don’t notice many of the flaws; for the majority, as long as the tiles on the walls stay in place and the seams are more or less even :))))))))) Therefore, I myself try to make sure that my conscience doesn’t bother me, and trim so that it’s more beautiful, and to draw the angles evenly, a lot depends on the perception of the master. I know a carpenter, he has a barn at his dacha - dear mother! There is not a single level board, the roof is leaking, etc., according to the principle “it will do,” but there are people who approach it with all their hearts. This is how I try to do things so that people aren’t ashamed to look them in the eye, and my clients appreciate it. There are, of course, characters who, in order to bring down the price, find fault with every tile, but you can immediately see such people... for me it’s better not to deal with them. You won’t earn all the money, but your nerves are always more valuable :))))))
Yes, of course you can do it yourself! I think that 90% of craftsmen are self-taught, and the fact that you have not worked with tiles before is not a problem, there is always a first time for everything. But my advice is to practice at home first, and then at the facility :)))))))))))))))
So, gentlemen! The experiment was a success!!! On the balcony I laid tiles in the 15X15 format, loosened the glue in the proportion - half a bag of "Extras" to a bag of CM11. Everything mixed well, stuck and hung. I glued it under a 1 cm comb, it didn’t leak or float. The wall was not big enough for my eyes. I’m unlikely to practice something like this in the future, “you never know.” I don’t want to let the customer down, but it’s quite an option for myself!
Yep, it's been a while since I came here! Well, you piled up calculations and formulas... The person was confused. I appeal to every CUSTOMER or CONSUMER - Stop getting on your nerves. Are you asking how much you will take? As a master, I’ll tell you, with such a customer - NOT FOR MUCH!!! If he is thinking about saving on tile adhesive, preferring a cement and sand solution - this is already a diagnosis! It would be better if, instead of tiles, I collected the battle near the store - everything will be more economical!!! I laid it on cement with sand, when I was still a kid, my dad and I were tiling the stove at the dacha, and we fucked for a week! And every year then they restored it. Until one day I completely remade it (with tile adhesive, by the way). What is the savings in ruining the stove, walls, floor...your mood in the end? Buy yourself the cheapest instrument for balance! So that the tile cutter breaks on the first tile :))))))))) There are different adhesives, there are very inexpensive ones. Okay, I'm confused about something. Remember gentlemen: THE STINGY PAYS TWICE
I'll express my opinion. If we are talking about such objects as apartments (especially small-sized ones), then here an ordinary internship “rests”. The customer will not even consider the difference in cost when he imagines what he will need to supply to the site: cement, sand, mixing container. That every brigade has a concrete mixer? But every team has a mixer!!! And to pour a cement screed, you need at least two people, and even more if loading and unloading work is involved. You will have to mix in portions, in some places there is too much water, in others there is more cement... And with ready-made levelers it’s a nice thing! The customer bought it, delivered it, and picked it up. One master is quite capable of diluting it, mixing it with a mixer, pouring it and leveling it.
Larger objects are a different matter, of course there is a screed there. But there are more people and different tools.
I agree, all these points have their place. Well, except that we always take water from the tap, it’s never happened from a puddle :))))))) But the fact that we usually collect the dried pieces of glue on the sides and on the bottom and put them to use is 100%. I'll keep that in mind now, thank you!!! Continuing the topic, one more question. The last time I had a chance to work with Keracol, the glue is called “Extra” (I really didn’t see the original packaging, I took a discounted one with a torn bag in film), it’s a pleasure to work with and the glue mixes well and the tools are easy to wash. During the process of laying the tiles, I mixed it several times (so as not to dry out), and with this glue the mixture turned out to be very homogeneous without lumps, crusts and other garbage. I was laying an apron in the kitchen, half a bag was left, now I’m planning to tile the wall on the balcony, half a bag is not enough, but I have the remains of CM 11 from the site. It’s very convenient to work with the extra, the tiles don’t float or slide, and the SM is the SM... So I’m thinking of doing an experiment, what if the extra is released with the SM? Will thixotropy remain? What do you think?
Yes, this is all clear. Instructions, recipe, etc. I am interested in SPECIFIC EXAMPLES of what a violation of the recipe leads to. Here is an example from personal experience: the glue was not mixed well (the volume was small, it was necessary to cover the window slopes with brick-like tiles). I was too lazy to go for the “mixer”, I mixed it with a spatula. I poured the glue into a container and filled it with water, started stirring, the mixture turned out to be heterogeneous with lumps, the lumps inside were dry. Perhaps if you stir it well, the situation would improve. But I didn’t have enough patience :) I threw everything away and glued it onto silicone (luckily the customer had one). But my sin is not on the “water into glue” or “glue into water” sequence, but on the fact that you need to use a special mixer for mixing tile adhesive, or a special attachment for a drill, if the volume is small (after that incident I always have it with myself :))))))